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«Reply #30 on: June 06, 2008, 06:17:53 PM »
Meri najar mai pyar ka shayrana mizaz ke sath sirf itna sa rishta ho sakta hai ki aise insaan jayada bhwook ho kar rishto ko dekhein. Kyun ki jo log shayr nahi hai wo bhi to dil se apne partner ko pyar karte hai...
ab yah sawal hai ki unki baaton ko kab tak najar andaz kiya ja sakta hai... is vishaye per likhne se pahle mere liye yah jan.na jaroori hai ki kis tarah ki baato ke baare yaha baat ho rahi hai?

mai ye nahi kah raha ke jo log shayrana mizaz ke nahi hote hain wo apne partner se pyar nahi karte but wo un baaton ko importance dete hain jinhe koi shayrana mizaz wala shayad na de ...
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«Reply #31 on: June 06, 2008, 06:26:21 PM »
sawal dobara se wahin hai ki kis tarah ki baatein...
again her insaan alag alag parisithtio main pal kar bara hota hai.. apne apne anubhav hai...
phir bhi agar app baat clear kare koi example de kar to mere liye discuss karna jayada asaan hoga
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«Reply #32 on: June 06, 2008, 06:39:13 PM »
bekarar ji apne aor Sami ji ne ek aor sawal uthaya hai jo main do parts mai dekh rahi hu.
1.  Sami ji ne kaha : west me talaq bahoot jyada hote hain
jahan apko mera yah jawab najar ayya:  isliye kyonki un aurton ko maloom hai kab kya karna hai...

Apka man.na hai: ki adhikaar auraton ke shayad jyada hote hain.......kyonki ... mera anubhav hai ke aurat ke adhikaar apne pati ke liye kuch jyada hi hote hain ya fir wo apne pati ko emotionally exploit kar sakti hai bnispat  pati ke.............

Jawab:

 Sami ji ka kahna sahi hai ki west mai divorce jayada hai.. aor mera man.na hai kyun ki yaha aourto ko unke rights pata hai.. magar hum baat to emotions ki kar rahe hai. To kaya west main log emotional nahi hai.. ab is per ek alag poori discussion ho sakti hai... magar in short: Emotions yaha bhi hai.. aor true emotions wale yaha bhi jab tak hota hai sath rahne ki koshish karte hai.. her tarah ki jayadati ko sehan karte hai.. magar yaha padosi sab dekh kar ankh nahi band karte.. balki law ko batate hai aor uske baad law wo hi karta hai jo sahi hai...

ab atte hai apke anubhav ki baat per: Is main koi shaq nahi ki jayadtar aourat mard se jayada emotional hoti hai. so use jo atta hai wo usse hi use karati hai, situation ko sahi karne ke liye. baki adhikar by law to dono ko same hai. app kis tarah ke adhikar ki baat kar rahe hai pls clear kare!!
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«Reply #33 on: June 10, 2008, 06:25:17 AM »
aapka thread to bahut hi umda hai....

mujhe aisa zara bhi nahi lagta ki hum shayeri likhte hai to thore senti hote hai aur apne partner ke sath wo talmel nahi bana paate jo aur log karte hai ...mere sath to aise zara bhi nahi hai...main apne partner ko samajhta hu aur wo mujhe ..mujhe pata hai ki use kya apsand nahi hai aur use ye pata hai ki main kab kaha aur kaise naraz ho sakta hu...ye understanding ager kisi me ho to use koi problem nahi honi chahiye...

shayeri se to aapas ka pyar aur badh jata hai...jaise mere sath hota hai...main kisi bhi mouke per kahi bhi jo halaat hai usper sher bol deta hu jo use bahut ache lagte hai..use mere sher kahne ka timing bahut pasand hai ..isse hum dono ke beech talmel aur barh jata hai
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«Reply #34 on: June 12, 2008, 03:20:05 PM »
What Happened?? No Mor discussion here..
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«Reply #35 on: June 12, 2008, 09:00:01 PM »
mujhe aisa zara bhi nahi lagta ki hum shayeri likhte hai to thore senti hote hai aur apne partner ke sath wo talmel nahi bana paate jo aur log karte hai ...mere sath to aise zara bhi nahi hai...main apne partner ko samajhta hu aur wo mujhe ..mujhe pata hai ki use kya apsand nahi hai aur use ye pata hai ki main kab kaha aur kaise naraz ho sakta hu...ye understanding ager kisi me ho to use koi problem nahi honi chahiye...

Wow, What he said is absolutely correct... But life depends on the reality of its own... where poetry is all about imaginative work and creative thoughts...

Now, sometimes feelings are being expressed poetically and which provided a sentimental environment for the time being,,, only...

It is necessary to take care of each other for things parters differ in...
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«Reply #36 on: June 16, 2008, 03:33:15 PM »
aapka thread to bahut hi umda hai....

mujhe aisa zara bhi nahi lagta ki hum shayeri likhte hai to thore senti hote hai aur apne partner ke sath wo talmel nahi bana paate jo aur log karte hai ...mere sath to aise zara bhi nahi hai...main apne partner ko samajhta hu aur wo mujhe ..mujhe pata hai ki use kya apsand nahi hai aur use ye pata hai ki main kab kaha aur kaise naraz ho sakta hu...ye understanding ager kisi me ho to use koi problem nahi honi chahiye...

shayeri se to aapas ka pyar aur badh jata hai...jaise mere sath hota hai...main kisi bhi mouke per kahi bhi jo halaat hai usper sher bol deta hu jo use bahut ache lagte hai..use mere sher kahne ka timing bahut pasand hai ..isse hum dono ke beech talmel aur barh jata hai


samnoj yah jaan kar khushi hui ki app sahi waqat per apni shyri se apne partner ko khush karte hai aor wo yah bahoot pasand karti hai. wahin per ek min ke liye sochiye ke apke partner ko shyri bilkul pasand nahi.. wo isko bilkul time kharab karna samjhati hai to kaya hoga.. ek wo baat.. jo apko khushi deti hai apki nature main hai.. app jab bhi apne partner ke sath share karna chaho tab khushi ki jagah ek tenssion ho jaaye.. tab kaya hoga?

aor yah baat bahoot se shadi shuda jodio mai dekhne ko milati hai.. Jo ek ko pasand hai wo doosre ko nahi.. aor kai baar yahi choti choti baatein dheere dheere itani badi deewar ban jaati hai ki pata hi nahi chlta ki ek chat ke niche do log kitne akele, tanha ho jaate hai!!
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«Reply #37 on: June 16, 2008, 04:05:00 PM »
Saarthika Devika... Aapne Mateen ko lekar ek side suna daali,,, dusri baat couples kabhi bhi ek jaisa vyavahaar rakhen yeh asambhav hai...
Iss liye dono ko ek dusre ki baaton ka thoda buhat aadar to karna hi padega...
Emotion shayiri likhte waqt achhe lagte hain kyun ki shayir ko dil se likhna hota hai...
Par phir Shayir ko baqi apne irdgird par bhi kadi nazar rakhni chhahiye...

Waise bhi log shayiron ko kuchh adhik bhaavuk aur achetan samajhte hain...
Chalo aage likho to hum aur likhen...
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«Reply #38 on: June 16, 2008, 04:15:23 PM »
syednaami........
is thread me tumhe padhana mujhe bahoot achcha lagta hai.. aur mai kaafi khush bhi hun ki kai baar tum is topic ke itni gahraai me chale gaye ho jabki tum abhi chote ho aur shaadi hone me waqt bhi hai....
mai abhi is thread me bahoot kuch aur likhna chahta hun lekin bilkul thande dimag se kyonki mujhe ab aisa lag raha hai shayad aane wale waqt me ye ek behtreen dastavez hoga new yoindians ke liye....kyonki sabhi bahoot gahrai se ise likh rahe hai.....ek baat aur samji shayad meri baat ki gahrai taq ja kar nahi soch paye hain
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«Reply #39 on: June 16, 2008, 04:29:38 PM »
syednaami Mahashye ji,

Apki pahli baat ki maine mateen ji ki baat ko pard kar ek side ki baat kahin.. mujhe aise nahi lagta. mujhe jo baat sahi lagi maine wo likhi.

Apne farmaya ki "Emotion shayiri likhte waqt achhe lagte hain kyun ki shayir ko dil se likhna hota hai...""

Ache lagte hai ka kaya matlab hai yaha.. her shayri karne wale ka apna ek alag status of mind hota hai!! Kuch log bhavook hote hai ki jo apne aass pass dekhte hai uss per likhte hai.. jaise ki yaha Yoindia per maine Roja aor Netarpal ji ki kavita pardi...

kuch rishto per likhna pasand karet hai jaise ki Mahiya ji

aor kuch apne jeevan mai jo hota hai uss per apne khayalo ko kavita ka roop de dete hai jaise Pooja ji..

yaha abhi maine teen tarah ke emotions ka jikar kiya hai.. apko kaya lagta hai ki yah kavita likhte waqat apne emotions ACHE banae ki koshish karte hai... ya jo dekhte hai usse emotional hokar likhte hai..

jo koi insaan apne app shabdo ko kavita ka roop deta hai wo dil se he likhega.. nahi to likhna to hoga magar wo kavita kabhi nahi banegi!!

Iske baad apne farmaya: Par phir Shayir ko baqi apne irdgird par bhi kadi nazar rakhni chhahiye...

Bhawook insaan bhi kai tarah ke hote hai... kuch jo kuch dekh kar bhwaook hue, asar hua aor kuch waqat baad wapis apni dunia main.

Kuch aise mid type, kuch hua.. 2 4 din uska asar aor uske baad kabhi man mai aa gaya..

kuch is tarah ke jo 2 se 4 week tak roj, her kisi se wo hi baat karge... aor sari umar wo baat dil per... kahin kuch milta julta bhi dekha to sab purani baatein shuru

issi tarah kore (jo bhawook nahi hote) logo ke bhi vibhag hai.. kuch understand kar lete hai.. kuch kabhi ok to kabhi gussa aor kuch bilkul nahi karte

Ab agar bahoot bhawook insaan ka partner jo bilkul hi nahi bhawook ho, usse ho jaaye to app samjh sakte ho ki kaya hoga... koi understanding nahi hai wahan

chahe wo bhawwook insaan wife hai ya husband!! koi farak nahi pardta. Bhawool partner hamesha preshan rahega..
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«Reply #40 on: June 16, 2008, 04:39:54 PM »
sarthika jee filhaal mai katai sanzeeda mood me nahi tha ki is topic par kuch likhun lekin aapne bahoot gahrai se apni baat rakhi hai......
aur mai aapki baat se sahmat hun kaafi had taq....
lekin mujhe aisa laga sam ji ne ise bahoot satahi tour par liya aur aapne behad gahrai tak......
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«Reply #41 on: June 16, 2008, 04:53:45 PM »
bekarar ji,

chalye main ek baar dobara mateen ji ki baat leti hu.. wo sahi moke per apne partner ko shayri sunate hai.. aor usse acha lagta hai..

yah baat thori apke topic se alag hai.. magar bhawanao se jurri hui hai!!

agar shadi ke baad biwi apne husband ki bato ke bich, sahi moke per, shayri kare to husband ka kaya reaction hoga.. (90% husband pasand nahi karege). yah nahi ki unhe shayri pasand nahi hai.. magar biwi ka shayri karna.. ek bahoot high level ki understanding hone ke baad he sambhav hai!!

yah baat mere man main thi.. magar pahle nahi likh saki... magar likhe bina rah bhi nahi saki!!!


Mateen ji: meri kisi bhi line ne apki bhawnaao ko thais pahuchai ho to maafi chahugi!!

AppBeeti: college ke samye main, jab pahli baar maine apni likhi kavitaye, apni sab se achi saheli ko dikhai aor usne yah baat apne ghar mai batai ki main bahoot achi kavitaye likhati hu. Uske baad usse mujhse baat nahi karne di gai.. kaha gaya ki ACHE GHAR KI LADKIA, SHAYRI NAHI KARTI!!

Mujhe ajj tak samjh nahi ayya ki bhawnao ko agar koi shabdo mai likh kar kavita ka roop deta hai, is ka ache ya boore ghar se kaya rishta hai!!

Ab agar us insaan (meri seheli ke papa) ki biwi kahin apne ander shayri ki bhawna rakhti ho to samjh sakte hai sari zindagi usne kaise ghootan mai bitaai hogi!! Apne hi partner ke samne agar doosra partner apni bhawano ko na bant sake.. to jeete je mar kar jeena ho gaya!! dunia ke chahe kitne sukh ghar mai partner de de. agar bhawanao ko adar na de sake to sab sukh na ke saman hai!!
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«Reply #42 on: June 16, 2008, 05:10:07 PM »
syednaami........
is thread me tumhe padhana mujhe bahoot achcha lagta hai.. aur mai kaafi khush bhi hun ki kai baar tum is topic ke itni gahraai me chale gaye ho jabki tum abhi chote ho aur shaadi hone me waqt bhi hai....
mai abhi is thread me bahoot kuch aur likhna chahta hun lekin bilkul thande dimag se kyonki mujhe ab aisa lag raha hai shayad aane wale waqt me ye ek behtreen dastavez hoga new yoindians ke liye....kyonki sabhi bahoot gahrai se ise likh rahe hai.....ek baat aur samji shayad meri baat ki gahrai taq ja kar nahi soch paye hain

Bhaya jee... Yeh gahrai to shaadi ke baad hi aayegi... ab tak jitna ghota laga sakta hun laga kar kuchh prastut kar raha...
Waise jo bhi log yahan hastakshep karenge,,, kuchh naya hi likhenge har bar...

kyunki Bhawnaon ka sagar jab kissi ko taT pe phenke to us ka jeevan badal de...
Koshish karunga aap ke aadhaar par kuchh aapatati kar paun...

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«Reply #43 on: June 16, 2008, 05:34:29 PM »
Sarthika ji....
aapne bahoot hi umada baat kahi hai.. aur kaafi sahi bhi hai...
jahan tak mera sawal tha wo ye tha ki shayrana  mizaz wale shakhs (chahe wo mard ho ya aurat) ki apane partner se talmel sahi rahti hai ya nahi?
yahan shayran mizaz ka matlab hargiz ye nahi hai ki aap shayar hi hon...balki iska matlab hai full of emotions thats all...
aur fir chahe wo sher kah paata ho ya nahi....
aur mai aisa maan kar chal raha hun ke is type ke logon ko "kai baar un baaton par gussa nahi aata, jinhen log bahoot badi samajhte hain...aur kai baar aisi baat inhe nagwar guzrati hai jo partner ke liye bahoot choti ya fir kuch baat hi nahi hoti hai.....
 
kya aisa hota hai ya kya aapne aisa feel kiya hai??
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«Reply #44 on: June 16, 2008, 05:50:50 PM »
pahle apki dusari baat ko laker likh rahi hu: is baat ka emotions se koi matlab nahi hai. Her ek insaan ki apni soch hai.. aor kin parisithatio se guzar raha hai.. same baat kai baar boori tarah lag jaati hai aor kai baar koi asar nahi. Mood + situation + personality!!

koi bahoot krantikaari type ho ki mar jaana hai tootna nahi waha baat bilkul alag hai!!

ab apki pahli baat: do bahoot emotional log bhi ek sath nahi rah sakte!! partners mai emotions ke sath sath maturity, understanding aor caring bhawnaaye bahoot bada hath khail khailti hai!!  do bahoot alag alag nature ke hote hue bhi agar caring bhawna hai jis se understanding bhawna aati hai tab bhi do partner khush rah sakte hai!!

In short: do partners main emotions hone ke bawjood kuch aor baato ka hona jaroori hai. warna ek emotional hai aor doosra nahi, ya dono he emotional hai... baat ek jaise he hai!!
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