A request from New Writer to Yoindia Shayariadab community

by yoindia on June 03, 2012, 03:17:16 PM
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«Reply #15 on: June 03, 2012, 05:49:19 PM »
arree yaar aab ye kya bachkana baat hai...
mai bhi to naya shayr hun yahan par....

or saini sahb har bar clap he dete par
mai is bat pe khush hun k kams-kam vo meri shayri pad to rahe hai........



sorry but yahan k logon ka dil boht chota hai ... bhale he umar mai mai chota hun par kehna chahunga


YARON DIL BADA RAKHO IN KHOKLI BATON MAI KYA RHAKHA HAI

yahan saab naam pana chahte hain...
SHAYRI TUM NAHI, YE DIL LIKHTA HAI, PAR VO TO BENAAM HE REH JATA HAI
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«Reply #16 on: June 03, 2012, 06:32:11 PM »
I have had few suggestions from the members and i try to implement them though not all. Clap is also appreciation, of course comments do add to the charm. I look forward to honest appreciation..after a while we kinda become familiar with other members and start appreciating not so good writing...I would like to request fellow members not to do that...

Honesty is the best policy...

Agar sahi rai milege tabhi naye shayar improve kar payenge...

Thanks...

Shireen Hakani
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Intezar
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«Reply #17 on: June 03, 2012, 06:50:19 PM »
To all Dear members of Yoindia... and iAdmin

jahan tak baat yoindia par posts ki aur comments ki hai to main ye kehna chahunga ki posts bhi bahut hoti hain aur comments bhi... aur jaha tak is discussion ki baat hai ki comments written ho ya symbolic to ye depend karta hai us particular time ki jab hum wo post read karte hain, kabhi kabhi words nahi hote us post ke comments ke liye... lekin kisi bhi member ko dil chhota nahi karna chahiye ki koi uski post par written comment nahi karta even hum dekhte hain ki posts par views bahut jaada hote hain lekin comments bahut kam jiska matlab ye hai ki padha to kayi logo ne lekin comment bahut kam logo ne kiya... jin logo ne comments kiye unka shukragujar hona chahiye chahe wo written ho ya symbolic lekin saath hi unka bhi shukragujar hona chahiye jinhone us post ko sirf padha hoga kyunki comment na karne ka matlab ye nahi hota ki us post ko napasand kiya gaya hoga...

aur jise ye shikayat hai ki new members ko koi train nahin karta ya help nahi karta to aisa bilkul nahi hai aur ye new or old members ki baat nahi hai... yaha har koi help karta hai... lekin haan us help ki kadar karni hogi... SKSAINI sahab aur PARWAZ sahab humesha sabki post par kuch comments karte huye dikhte hain jo ki post ko sudharne ke liye kaafi helpful hoti hain...

aur mujhe yoindia par 1 year se jaada ho gaya hai abhi bhi mujhe log meri post par comments dete hain aur help bhi karte hain meri mistakes ko clear karne me...

new members par comments written me isliye bhi nahi hote ki shayad aap starting me hi itne frustrate na ho jaaye dheere dheere aapko yoindia aur is se jude members samajh aajayenge...

kuch months pehle shayari likhne ki ya is se judi technicality ki thread bhi kisi ne shuru ki thi wo sab help aur train karne ke liye hi hai chahe wo new members ho ya phir old members...
So keep posting keep commenting...

ummmeeed hai ki hamari baat aap sabhi tak pahunchi hogi...

Shukriya

Intezar !

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«Reply #18 on: June 03, 2012, 06:50:33 PM »
Admin ji.Comments seek karne ke liye shukriya. New Member ka jazba qabil e qadr hai . Lekin is silsile mein mera tajruba bhi mila jula hai.Maine bhi kuchh youngsters ko maange jaane par , aur kuchh ko - jin mein Urdu poetry ki salaahiyat lagi - suo motu bhi mashwire diye hain. Ye mashwire zyadatar Words ke sahi pronunciation,unke istemaal ya kisi member ko Bahr(Meter)mein likhne ke liye encourage karne ke liye thhe.Zyadatar ne appreciate kiya ,inse  faida hona acknowledge kiya aur further communication bhi kiye.Lekin kuchh ko nagwar bhi laga ya unhon ne improve karne ki koi koshish nahi ki.Is liye na to comments,specially technical aspects per,sub ko diye jaa sakte hain na iska koi uniform tareeqa mumkin hai.Na aap kisi member ko - woh naya hoya puraana - sirf face value per ( ya simply on his words ) le sakte hain .Isi site per members hain jinhon ne apni post per bahut faraakh dili se islaah ke liye mashwire maange hain , lekin mashwira milne par wahi bura maan gaye hain . Aap New Member ka naam reveal kar dein taaki log apni raai unki posts per de sakein.
 'Claps' ya symbols ke zariye comments ko bhi koi inferior tareeqa nahi samajhna chaahiye .is site per har tarah ki poetry post hoti hai - Metered , unmetered , prose - aur bhi tarah tarah ki .Sirf eik baat common hai woh hai poetry ka shauq . Aise mein Words kabhi kabhi ghalat meaning convey kar sakte hain aur Symbols hi zyada sahi message convey karte hain.
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«Reply #19 on: June 03, 2012, 07:56:30 PM »
Dear iAdmin Ji,
Thanks for seeking my view on the post of a new member. Here I would like to quote a verse from Ramcharitmanas:"निज कवित्त केहि लाग न नीका, सरस होई अथवा अति फीका"  here the great poet Tulsidas says 'own creation is always good, how soever it may be'. It has been my personal experience on YI that very often the suggestive comments on matters of poetry such as 'meter' etc. are not appreciated  by the poets and they become aggressive. It is therefore suggested not to write such comments on the wall, however it can be sent through PM.
Further, 'claps' are also good way of appreciation because when words are deserted before the creation symbols serve the purpose.
Here I would like to suggest you that the number of claps should be graded as: Less than 3 claps (1 or 2 -)- Below average, 3 claps - Average, 4 claps - Good, 5 claps - Excellent.

Best Regards
Dr. H.P.Pandey 'Adab'
Allahabad
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«Reply #20 on: June 03, 2012, 08:14:22 PM »
salam arbabe mahfil
shukria aap ka msg mila , khair ab ilm dost hoone ke nate jawab to dena hi pade gaa.
aaj is pareshani ko uthaya ja raha hai, jo main 2006 ya7 mein samjhane ki koshish ki thee , majboori is site ki yeh hai , keh yaha per koi shagird nahin hai, sabhi ustaad hain , kisi ko samjhana fuzool hai,ooper se leker neeche tak koi bhi ho(zahir hai 5 ungliyayan aik si nahin hooti)yaani chahe naya likhne wala ho ya purana ziyadater to zubaan hi se nabalad hain jo hain woh meer ghalib ya iqbal se kam nahin , aur kabhi samjhaya to behad badtameezi se paish aaye aur jihalat yeh ke unko samjhane ke bajaye wahan unka support kiya jata hai to zahir hai is tarah ki pacheedgee to aayegee , kuinke aql o shaur to seekhne se aata hai badtameezi se aur jihalat badhti hai aur aaj ke daur ne diya hi kiya hai,main itne salon se samjhata raha mager jahan awa ka awa hi tedha ho wahan kia kia ja sakta hai, to jio jaise ji rahe ho , jo seekhna na chahe ya jis mein anna ya zoom aagaya hai use to khuda bhi aaker nahin seedha ker saka hai .
to iske liye aik nayee shuruaat ki zarrorat hai jaise ke pahle hum ne aik comm. banayee thee , her shakhs usmein apni her tarah ki pareshani likhain poochain , to zahir hai uska izala kia jaye aur phir sab rahe rast per aasakte hain , werna jo main hun woh koi nahin na hum sudher sakte hai na aap, aagay jihaalat aur hi apna rang dikhati nikharti nazer aaye gee aur her sahreef aadmi apna daman bachata bhagta nazer aayega, koi kisi ko zahmat ho to sawal ker sakta hai , dil aazari hoyee ho to maazrat mager haqqiqat pasand hoga to samajhne ki koshish kare ga jahil to jihalat kare ga hi, rahi tali ki baat, jab samajh mein nahi aayega to sirf taali hi bajaingay , woh comments de hi nahin sakte. maine bahut se mazameen ko jaker dekha hai , sabse badi pareshani zubaan ki baat hai uski rawani, chashni aur ahmiyaat se na aashna ho kia comments dega. baherhaal aagay sab khud samajhdaar hai, sabse badi baat jab ---------

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«Reply #21 on: June 03, 2012, 08:19:35 PM »
dear admin ji/sabhi yoindians,
     sabse pahle to admin ji ka bahut bahut shukriya ki unhone mujhe bhi is vishay par rai dene ke kabil samjha.mere vichaar se appreciation dono hi tarah se kiya ja sakta hai yeh sub depend karta hai ki:-
(1) poetry pad kar reply karne ka paryapt samay hai athva nahin
(2)padne vale ka mood kaisa hai/vo swayam rachna likh raha hai us samay
(3)jo pada ja raha hai vo kis prakar ki rachna hai poorna hai athva sirf do line
(4)padne vala aksar sabhi ko reply karta hai athva kuchhek selected ko reply karta hai
   
   mera matlab hai isee prakar ki anya kai baaten hain jo mayne rakhti hain aur reader/writer apna reply karta hai usko kisee bhi prakar se kam nahi aanka jaana chaahiye.mera vyaktigat anubhav mix raha hai maine taaliyan bhi batori hain aur comments bhi paye hai yahan tak ki telephone ke jariye sujhav aur support bhi mila hai(saini sahab lot of thanks) aur mujhe kisee se kisee bhi prakar ki shikayat nahi hai isliye maine bhi kaiyon ko taaliyan aur comments dono diye hain fir chahe vo minor spelling mistakes hi kyon na hon.
   ab aata hoon main un naye member ke pm par jo aapko bheja gaya hai mere khyal se asali samsya koi doosri hi lagti hai, uparvale ki kripa se yahan poetry posting aur reply ka flow bahut jabardast hai aur recent reply mein sirf 10 reply najar aate hain jis se hota yeh hai kuchh rachnayen apna reply paane mein nakaamyaab rahti hai ya fir kuchh sirf taliyan paker rah jaati hain halanki taliyan paana bhi meri rai mein kam nahin. iske nidaan ke liye mere sujhav ye hai ki:-
(1) recent reply bada diye jayen taki 25-30 rachnaon par reply najar aaye jis se just post ki gayi rachna/reply turant naye reply/post ki dhaar mein na bah jaye
(2)shayari home par sabhi nayee poorna rachnao ko sthan mile aur vo page kab  update hota hai vo bhi clear ho.
(3)latest poetry mein bhi sankhya bada di jaye aur her poetry ke samne reply ki sankhya bhi dikhe
(4)my topics mein bhi yadi poetry ke title ke sath yadi reply ki sankhya bhi najar aaye to sone pe suhaaga

    mujhe ummeed hai aisa karne se improvment jaroor aayega,mere views padne ke liye sabhi ko bahut bahut dhanyavaad .

ghansham das ahuja
               
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«Reply #22 on: June 04, 2012, 02:06:33 AM »
G.D. Ahuja  Ki Rai Se kafi Hadh tak sehmat hoon ... isse kafi badlav aayega.. Clapping Smiley Clapping Smiley Clapping Smiley Clapping Smiley Clapping Smiley
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«Reply #23 on: June 04, 2012, 03:01:14 AM »
Dear admin ji,

main new member ki baat se sirf itna hi sehmat  hoon ki  agar koi post read karta hai aur phir comment mein sirf clap show kare.... to thoda ajeeb hai ...clap ke sath aap 2 shabd kah dein chahe phir wo sudhar ke liye hoo ya tareef ke liye ho ya koi sujhav ho kafi hai haan agar aap read kar bina comment kar nikal jate hai to baat alag hai........yoindia mein aise mahan aur real shayar hai jo badi bariki si new member ki help kar sakte hai unki galtiyon mein sudhar late hai unhe sujhav dete hai jo sach mein qabil-e-tareef hai... yahan bhed chal nahi ki usne taref ki to main b hi kar doon........tareef mayne nahi rakhti sujhav sudhar mayne rakhta hai agar wo ho jata hai to nazm gazal shayari  apne aap hi tareef ke qabil ho jati hai.....seniour members hamesa se hi increase karte aaye hai yahan... par kuch seniour member na jane kis khattas ya kis kaaran ki wajh se bahut kam aa rahe hai.. jis wajh se bhi jyada comment nahi ho pa rahe hai.....


abhi kuch din pehle hi maine mann.mann ki post par dekha tha kafi bawal ho raha tha comment par ufaq ji ne correction kiya gazal mein jo kuch dusre member ko pasand nahi aya.. aur kafi behas baji  bhi hui.... agar comment par behas baji hi karni aage chal kar to ADMIN ji achha hai ki aap clap system allow kare  jaisa ki  DR PANDEY NE ADVISE DI HAI.... usse kam se kam yeh to nahi hoga .....aur phir writter khud samjhega ki  reader ne uski shayari ko kya response dia hai.......baqi to to aap admin hai  aur bahut se seniour member hai. jo sahi faisla lenge.....main aapke aur seniour members ke har faisle mein sath hoon..........

Soudagar....
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«Reply #24 on: June 04, 2012, 03:31:45 AM »
Dear Admin & the new writer,

This is not an issue or a problem, there will be different feed back and clap is one of them. As per my view the new writer should understand the appreciation and re-act accordingly. What happens when some one reads your post and stay neutral. So, accept it and stay ahead, you will surely get the due comments to your posts.

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«Reply #25 on: June 04, 2012, 04:18:17 AM »
Dear iAdmin Ji,
Thanks for seeking my view on the post of a new member. Here I would like to quote a verse from Ramcharitmanas:"निज कवित्त केहि लाग न नीका, सरस होई अथवा अति फीका"  here the great poet Tulsidas says 'own creation is always good, how soever it may be'. It has been my personal experience on YI that very often the suggestive comments on matters of poetry such as 'meter' etc. are not appreciated  by the poets and they become aggressive. It is therefore suggested not to write such comments on the wall, however it can be sent through PM.
Further, 'claps' are also good way of appreciation because when words are deserted before the creation symbols serve the purpose.
Here I would like to suggest you that the number of claps should be graded as: Less than 3 claps (1 or 2 -)- Below average, 3 claps - Average, 4 claps - Good, 5 claps - Excellent.

Best Regards
Dr. H.P.Pandey 'Adab'
Allahabad


Dr. Pandey ney 'yukti-yukt' salaah dee hai! Taaliyaan kisey achchhee nahin lagteen? Jahaan tak 'poetic criticism' yaani, 'tabsirah' kaa sawaal hai, 'it's rather a specialized field'; and people (here poets) seldom like even an honest negative comment! Hence for maintaining a cordial atmosphere midst the members, I feel, only 'positive comments' should be initiated! "Saar-saar ko gahi rahey, thotaa deyhi urhaaya"! Isliye jo bhi 'achchhaa' kahaa gayaa hai, uspar +comments diye jaayen; aur baaqee par 'chup rahaa jaaye'! 
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«Reply #26 on: June 04, 2012, 09:06:16 AM »
Hi,
Firstly very very thanks to all Yoindia members.
I am a new beby in writing but in Yoindia really I learn a lot from seniors and there is some improvement in my writing 'aisa ab kafi log kehte hai'.

Vaise yha pe kafi kuch accha padne ko milta hai jise motivation milta hai kuch aur accha likhne ko.

I must say it's a platform when anyone can  show their writing talent and will get feedback or suggestions on them.

I always appriciate feedback.

Thanks:
Satay Tiwari

यहाँ आके ही शब्दों की कीमत जानी है

वर्ना हमारी शायरी का जूनून ,सिर्फ सुकून तक, ही सीमत था......BY SPT

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«Reply #27 on: June 04, 2012, 09:47:57 AM »
Iadmin ji....
yahan sabke views padhne ke baad aur samjhne ke baad ye hi keh sakti hun ke new members ye na samjhe ke unhe avoid kiya ja raha hai.. haan unki posts pe isily koi corrective comments nahin dete k kahin unhe nirasha na ho aur wo likhne me hichkichane na lagen.. ek baar wo yoindia ke members ko janne lage aur yoindians unke sath ghulmil jayen to apne aap unhe coreections mil jayenge
tab tak unhe likhte rehna chahiye aur senior shayron ko padhte rehna chahiye ...
 wo ek ye kaam bhi kar sakte hain ke kuch logon ko jinse wo corrective comments chahte hain unhe Pm me apni post k link dedin aur kahen cmnts ke liye...

kai bar aisa ho chuka hai ke kisiko unki post pe kuch toka jaye to wo bura maan jate hain .. har koi corrective comments ko as improvement nahin leta .. isily kuch log isse bachte hain...

new members and even old members ko sath milkar hi iske liye koshish karni padegi...

and yesss clapping and emoticons are a way of encouraging,,,
rest is up to all..


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«Reply #28 on: June 04, 2012, 09:53:06 AM »
iadmin ji
aap TAG facility bhi forum pe kar saken to kafi easy ho jayega new mwmbers ke liye  .... kai bar itne unread post ho jate hain ke new members ki post ko utna thik se time nahin de pate hain log... aur kai bar kuch bahot hi achhci posts itni piche ho jati hai ke dekh hi nahin pate ..
agar tag kiya gaya hoga to unn posts pe aap turant comment kar paoge ..aur jin newmembers ko jin purane members se spl comment ki umeed hoti hai wo bhi mil jayegi..
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«Reply #29 on: June 04, 2012, 03:05:02 PM »
I am completely agree with him/her (PM buddy).

It's Doesn't Matter whether he/she is new or Old, Appreciating each other with some words will surely boost one's encouragement so that he/she can give their best attempt or they get chance to improve themselves.

Animated characters and symbols can be used with some words..
apart from that As per my own view we don't required any other stuffs .

If a person can select a animation then surely he/she can add few words in respect of the poet.

One more thing , As compare to old members ,definitely New Members need more attention , so its a request from old whenever they get time try to appreciate New members.

Rest All is Good Here Usual Smile
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